Odd that you didn't feel like "apologizing" two or three hours ago, but okay. Actually, I should congratulate you--you did a great job of convincing me you were incredibly obtuse in addition to being immature. (Even if I'm not terribly convinced that the fact that someone can be needled by a troll proves anything more about them than it does about the troll, and also not certain I see the connection you're trying to draw between my criticism and your particular method of trolling.)
You've got a good point about the OP's motivations. Interestingly enough, though, I think it's in fact the case that everyone I've seen copping the "other people are objectively rude" attitude was indeed using it as a cover for their own wants in that same way--"I want everyone to act like this, but the only way I can justify asking them to is if I assert that it's the Only Right Way to act." I actually noticed that quite a while ago, and it was silly of me to overlook it in this case. It still doesn't make people like that any easier to deal with, though--if anything, harder, because they know they're asserting falsehoods and have a personal stake in not admitting it.
Come to think of it, I suspect the idea of "politeness" as a whole is probably based on that same "I need to use tricks to get what I want because it's somehow not okay to just ask for it" mentality, on some level. Perhaps that's why I set so little store by politeness-for-its-own-sake.
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Date: 2005-08-30 10:06 pm (UTC)You've got a good point about the OP's motivations. Interestingly enough, though, I think it's in fact the case that everyone I've seen copping the "other people are objectively rude" attitude was indeed using it as a cover for their own wants in that same way--"I want everyone to act like this, but the only way I can justify asking them to is if I assert that it's the Only Right Way to act." I actually noticed that quite a while ago, and it was silly of me to overlook it in this case. It still doesn't make people like that any easier to deal with, though--if anything, harder, because they know they're asserting falsehoods and have a personal stake in not admitting it.
Come to think of it, I suspect the idea of "politeness" as a whole is probably based on that same "I need to use tricks to get what I want because it's somehow not okay to just ask for it" mentality, on some level. Perhaps that's why I set so little store by politeness-for-its-own-sake.