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Something screwy has started happening lately: whenever I get an error trying to load a page, instead of the standard IE "page not found" message, I get routed to a page on www.internet-optimizer.com, to all appearances a fairly run-of-the-mill web portal. This is very aggravating because it means I can't hit Reload to see the page I was trying to view; I have to manually extract the URL from amidst the junk that it's been surrounded by in the address bar, or track down the link I got there from. Does anyone know how this sort of thing comes about (I know I've seen it happen before) and how to fix it?

If you're using IE

Date: 2004-01-28 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jd5p.livejournal.com
It sounds like the search page is getting screwed with. IE likes to send you to a search page if the URL returns a not valid. In Tools->Internet Options under the Programs pane there is a reset web settings. I don't know how to explicitly change the search page. Or probably Tools->Reset Web Settings will do it. That will change the default home page.

Re: If you're using IE

Date: 2004-01-28 02:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vvvexation.livejournal.com
Aha. I'd skimmed over that but I thought it'd also reset my home page and such. Apparently it doesn't have to.

*clicks button, crosses fingers*

Re: If you're using IE

Date: 2004-01-28 03:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vvvexation.livejournal.com
Gah, it doesn't seem to have accomplished anything.

Date: 2004-01-28 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flwyd.livejournal.com
A few months ago, Verisign, the people in charge of the .com and .net registries, decided to redirect all queries for nonexistant domains to their "Register with us!" page with a technique geeks understand as "DNS Wildcarding." Amidst loud complaints, they stopped doing that while they "Consider their options." So the previous commentor indicates that this isn't your problem, but it could be in the past or future.

Date: 2004-01-28 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vvvexation.livejournal.com
No, I do get that sort of thing sometimes when I look for nonexistent domains, but this is when I try to load a page that I know exists but is just having momentary server trouble (most often a page on LJ, as it happens).

Date: 2004-01-28 03:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imnotbob.livejournal.com
You may have spywere. It happended to me not to long ago..

Here is a web site that can help.

http://www.doxdesk.com/parasite/

Also, check your Internet Properties, Advanced tap and make sure that Enable Install On Demand (Internet Explorer) and Enstall On Demand (Other) are not checked.

The default is that they are checked, but thats how spywhere gets put on your computer with out you knowing about it.

Date: 2004-01-28 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vvvexation.livejournal.com
Hoo boy. I do indeed have me some parasites, they sez. Funny thing is, I've got those boxes unchecked already.

Date: 2004-01-28 03:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imnotbob.livejournal.com
They are awfuly sneeky, thats how they got in with me, but maybe they know another way.

At least they tell you how to remove it.

Date: 2004-01-28 06:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imnotbob.livejournal.com
I really hate spywear, more so than spam or telemarketers...

Date: 2004-01-28 05:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmett-the-sane.livejournal.com
Yep, that's exactly the problem. I had the same commercial virus right before I finally gave up IE for good.

I use Ad Aware (http://www.lavasoftusa.com/), though. Either will work.

Date: 2004-01-28 06:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vvvexation.livejournal.com
I just had a friend IM me and point me to that. Good thing he did, 'cause it turned out there were still bits left over from the programs I'd removed, plus there was a program that wouldn't let me remove it any other way.

Date: 2004-01-28 06:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmett-the-sane.livejournal.com
Yep. If you're running IE, then letting AdAware do its virus scan once a week is pretty much a necessity.

Date: 2004-01-28 08:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cortneyofeden.livejournal.com
Yup, yup. AdAware is my good buddy. And remember to download their updates frequently. They're good about adding sites as they find out about them...

I had to deal with this a couple months ago

Date: 2004-01-28 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] girlpurple.livejournal.com
If you want to clean your system of the existing adware and then protect against future infection, I recommend the following.

*Install and run "Hijack this" at http://mjc1.com/mirror/hjt/ -- Despite the odd name, it does something extremely useful: it outputs a log so that you can analyze exactly what parts of your browser are affected. This page http://hjt.wizardsofwebsites.com/ has some useful info on how to interpret and fix whatever the log shows.

*Install Adaware, as Emmett suggested and let it scan and clean your system.

*Install another spyware program like SpyGuard and let it scan and clean your system. Different programs have different adware libraries, so multiple scans by different programs frequently turn up things the first ones missed.

*Then install a program like Spyware Blaster http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html , which prevents new spyware from being installed and warns you when you go to a page that tries.

Like viruses, adware is constantly "improved", so make sure to keep your scanning software up to date and scan periodically.

It took me 6 hours of research and a lot of trial and error to FINALLY get the "smarter" search bar off my browser. My work IT dept was entirely useless as far as helping me -- in the end, I showed them what I'd learned so they could pass it along within their team. Feh!

Good luck!

Re: thanks for a lot of useful info

Date: 2004-01-28 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purchasemonkey.livejournal.com

   Thanks for posting a lot of useful info; when I get home, I'm going to revisit this entry and follow your advice,which makes for like only the third time ever thatLJ has served a useful purpose in my life....

[profile] myriah wrote:
It took me 6 hours of research and a lot of trial and error to FINALLY get the "smarter" search bar off my browser. My work IT dept was entirely useless as far as helping me -- in the end, I showed them what I'd learned so they could pass it along within their team. Feh!

   For some reason, I find myself moved to defend the IT guys; years ago, I was one of them (and thank Whoever I'm not anymore). When a user calls in with a problem like this--annoying adware that only affects IE and web browsing, and thus has almost no impact on almost any user's productivity (since most people web-browse as a distraction from work rather than for actual job-related reasons), it immediately, in my past experience, gets moved to the bottom of the priority pile. Since most IT teams are understaffed and underpaid (since executives with MBA's think they're an expense, rather than an asset), they have to prioritize ruthlessly. Thus, they can't help with problems which aren't affecting productivity, even if they want to. Usually, if they know a problem isn't mission-critical, especially if it takes a long time to handle, they'll play dumb until the user stops asking.

   Why am I bothering to post this? It'll just sound like I'm preaching at you and telling you to stop whining. I'm not; I just feel like IT guys are usually beleaguered and underappreciated, and want people to understand their perspectives so as to spread understanding. I find dealing with IT guys really annoying, since I know many of their tricks. =)


You're welcome

Date: 2004-01-28 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] girlpurple.livejournal.com
Happy to share what I learned -- the thread prompted me to rescan my work machine this morning with updates libraries, uncovering an additional 29 registry chages, tracking cookies, and a malware file or two.

Regarding IT, our company is tech-oriented and most of us actually use (at least parts of) the web for work. :-) The IT folks were quite responsive, but they had no clue what I was talking about when I began babbling about spyware and asking if we had corporate licenses for monitoring against it. The tech that I worked with ended up printing web pages for the sites I used along with my "Hijack This" log as an example.

Date: 2004-01-29 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mercher.livejournal.com
Try doing a search on your PC for any variations of the word "optimizer" that may be a file that is responsible for your PC redirecting you. It could be anything from an exe (doubtful) to a cookie or something related in a temp directory. It could also be a leftover from a spyware thing that was left on purpose or accidentally. Also try looking at the source code on the web page youy get directed to, to see if it has anything suspicious put on it in HTML that isn't obvious when browsing, like redirect bait (lots of words for search engines) or worse. Just trying to give you some clues.

Re:

Date: 2004-01-30 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vvvexation.livejournal.com
Yeah, I seem to have gotten it taken care of. Thanks though.

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